What to do when a customer asks if the ps2 game will work on there ps3?? customer: "does this ps2 game work on ps3?" retailer: "um err what ps3 you got" customer: "a black one" errrrrrr???!!!

You tell them to play it on their PS2

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no like any normal person with a brain, you'd just say was it the £299 40gb version you purchased? - How are there that many idiots in this world?

Great - time to buy one at long last.

Awesome... with upgrades coming all the time via firmware this is a great entry price!

Sony, going back on their word again? Who would have thought it.

First with a rumble controller after calling rumble a feature of the last generation.

Now with multiple console versions after phil harrison said that would confuse people - "I think we wouldn't take that strategy. We wouldn't create confusion"

(from - http://www.gamesin...11209 )

Here's the link to phil saying who wants rumble -

http://www.1up.com...57501

All they need to do now is get some games out for it.

Is the 40gb come with 2 free games...
cause if not, the 60gb is the only "real" option

This move will make Sony the market leaders once again! Certainly in terms of having the most versions of a console on the market. I'm holding out for the 5GB version with no ports on it at all, and no PS3 compatibility. Just a Blu-Ray player, but maybe with some reduced functionality with that too, no HDMI would be a good starting point for that.

The most important move for sony to do with the playstation 3 after announcing the 40 GB version is commercializing it as the best PS3 version for the consumer ( unlike what they did with 20 GB version ). Also, it should look the same as 60 GB ( no differences in the appearance ) so that the consumers will think it's a real choice to be considered.

One more thing , Oct the 10th is my birth day.. it must be a good day for sony lol.

I welcome all new PS3 owners to our growing circle

In the UK and Ireland, a Value Pack consisting of a 60GB PS3 with extensive backwards compatibility and two first party titles will be on sale at a price o***9 (£349). Remaining on sale while stocks last, the 60GB model represents outstanding value for the keen gamer wishing to upgrade to the High Definition capabilities of PS3. Once stocks are exhausted the new 40GB model will be the only one available in the SCEE territories."

Sony Playstation Website.

I think it's fairly obvious that Sony's looking to cease production of the 60GB model, hence the inclusion of the two additional first party games for £50 more than the newly announced 40GB SKU.

i bought my ps3 on 28th of september. thats only a week ago, and now i see this news of a £75 price cut. :(

think i could get a £75 refund from game?

Wait just a cotton picking minute. Why the @***! would any sane person buy a 40gb PS3 for £299 when you can get a 120gb 360 for the same price. This is just Sony Trying to stay in a market which has abandoned them a little bit longer. And as for games what games are Sony actually getting that are any good which microsoft havent got or are going to get. This is a febil effort by Sony to try and sucker more people into buying a dead console.

Smart move on reducing the price, as well as the costs. The missing backwards compatibility is idiotic. The European 60 GB PS3 gets it done via software emulation, and now that feature is taken from the 40 GB model? There is absolutely no justification in doing so. Let's all stop and think for a minute: Is Sony following this strategy so consumers will buy the soon-to-be-gone 60 GB model? I hardly think so. Backwards compatibility is an important feature and the lack thereof will make it very appealing for consumers to reconsider moving to a PS3 from the PS2. The XBOX 360 is cheaper, currently has the better games and very obviously also doesn't run PS2 games. As Nintendo has realized, the average buyer of a console today is not the enthusiast of past days. Brand loyalty is long gone.

I think that Backwards Compatability is quite important in the PS3. Espically with the fact that the PS3 is supposedly lacking a lot of software. Personally I think the PS3 has a great software selection and has good software coming in the future. Now for me B/C is important more for convience so I can play everything on one machine. When I think about this I wonder if this has anything to do with that deal with Sony selling some chip factory to Toshiba.

Also removing 2 USB ports isn't going to save tons of cash, I have looked it up and 2 USB ports cost about $15.00 so I don't really see a justification in losing them. Although I can't really see all the Peripherals I would be plugging into the 4 USB ports anyways other than controllers and Maybe the PS Eye, External HD, a Printer,PS2 Memory Card reader, ohh wait you wouldn't need that last one with it lacking the B/C. Well I was able to think of at least 4 things to plug in but in reality I would probably only keep the PS Eye & External HD in and unplug the PS Eye ever so occasionally to charge the Controller.

As for the Memory Card Reader it has its purpose for transfering game data to a friends PS3 or to backup game data to a computer if you don't have or want to buy an external HD, of course in the end you can always buy a USB Hub so you have more USB ports and can also buy a all in one USB Memory card reader. So really no biggie, The one thing you can't get back is the B/C so if that is important than you are best off buying a 60GB while thier still available.

One last thing I Wonder is with Sony pretty abandoning B/C does that mean the owners of the 80GB model that uses Software Emulated B/C aren't going to be supported anymore with firmware updates? Because that would be very uncool.

Any price drop is good news for the consumer, so it is welcome, 2 many system versions is a bad thing it premotes consumer confusion. Removing backwards compatability is the wrong thing to do again it will premote more sort term consumer confusion at a key calender period.
At the end of the day it's all about games and the PS3 is way short of those and they don't have to be tripple A titles to move hardware. The money these days is in the family market and thats why nintendo are cleaning up with a cheap no thrills hardware Wii. They have the family games and the families have the cash. Gone are the days of the hardcore gamers carrying a console to suce**** the families with more fun games for kids and you are onto a winner.

Seems to me that this is the model they should have launched back in march it has a good price point and BC isn’t that big a deal. That is unless you use it as a sales point and then remove it just 7 months in to a "10 year plan". All the new system will bring is more of the "I just want it for a cheap Blu-ray player" customer who buys games even less than the wii customers. I genuinely feel that the PS3 has been let down by its own creator the hardware is excellent but the way the launch ect have been dealt with has too have been the worst in history. This is just another pathetic and desperate attempt by Sony. Let’s just consider this as a re launch and hope things get better from now on.

I thought that the original reason for the 'no price drop' sensibility for the PS3 is that Sony were already losing money on each one sold? I know they make money up on some of the games, but how long can the keep on selling something at a loss?

well actually there not losing money anymore because the parts in the ps3 r cheaper and also they took out the EE+GS 44rm the the ps2 (thank u sony 4 not making the ps3 full backwards compatible)

Just a quick one. does the 40gb go on the internet to play games (eg like Fifa 08) against other

thanks

In my opinion, ps3 have got it all wrong,
What irritates me is i do want a ps3, quite badly, being a true fan of the ps2 when the new release console was created, i felt slightly dissapointed. Sure the graphics have greatly improved, a huge step up from the ps2 but to be honest the ten year or whatever it was release gap between the ps2 and ps3, its not that different.

Warhawk a quality multiplayer game is amazing, however there isnt the variety in the games that you get with the 360. Secondly the price, its all good that Sony have released a new cheaper model, but have lost in my opinion a major feature the B/C. Sony are **** minted, and therefore i don't understand why they can think they will get away with charging £360 ish for a console and the expect the consumers to pay £45-50 for every game. Its rediculess, surely if they reduced the price to something alot more affordable and stopped marketing it as an "investment", because lets face it the value of them IS NOT going upwards!

Then more people would purchase PS3's then eventually they will make more money than they would at this rate. Yes, Wii are greatly outselling PS3 because they have tapped into the family market, but we all know that the perfect family model, that Wii show, that the Wii can bring people together is bull**it.

There is still the market for big gamers, and that market is waiting for a better priced console. In my opion it is just A CONSOLE, not an investment, just the newest entertainment system that will be replaced by something new in couple of years.

I bought a Wii, because it was affordable, thats what people need resonable prices!

Sony have dominated the market for years, and if they pulled there head out of the ars*es and stopped thinking themselves, all high and mighty then maybe, just maybe they will regain that status, that everyone had a ps2, that was the console to have!

so whats the bottom line people is the ps3 40gb worth it or
not im asking because i have just bought one and if its not worth it ill take it back ?????????????

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