Thats okay, I will just focus on Circuit City for my electronics.
Not a problem...

HD DVD is the better format. Looks better, more options, better upgradeability. The lesser format won the last war, lets not repeat that mistake again...

HD-DVD had a head start. I won't deny it currently offers more features.

But it still lost.

Why? Because everyone not invested in HD-DVD recognises that BluRay is the superior format and a better long-term investment.

new focus....the last format war was actually between dvd and divx. divx used to be a format similar to dvd, except it would be time stamped...eg you coud buy the film but after x amount of time it would stop working....wasn't very popular...dont think it even exited outside of usa.

blu-ray and hd dvd perform exactly the same..thats why this has dragged on so long, there is no clear advantage over the oother. ps3 ha one the war, as soon as blu ray disks out sold hhddvd 4:1 the film companies followed. now please let hddvd die. its done and dusted.

Sorry DanWill but the format war is almost over, you might prefer HD-DVD but it's on its last legs now.....

The support is gone, Blu-ray have the backers and thanks to the PS3 more units in homes now as well......

Long live the single format - long live Blu-ray

@ Darksider

I wouldnt say that Blue ray is winning because people have realised that its the superior format and better long term investment.

I'd say its probably down to the fact the because of the PS3, there are a lot more Blue ray players in peoples homes than there are HD players.

The average consumer doesnt know the difference between the two.
If you look at the 360 and the PS3, the PS3 is supposed to be more powerful but the games currently look better on the 360. A classic example of how the technology is used better on one format than the other.

This is a brand war and Blue ray had it sewn up long before the high street consumer battle began. The logo's, the colour of the disc's, the fact it shipped with PS3's, the exculsive deals from the movie companies. Thats what this is about.

My flat mate is buying a PS3 just to watch Ratatouille on Blue Ray, he already owns a 360 with a HD drive but is buying a PS3 and a Blue ray copy of Ratatouille simply because he cant on HD.

That isnt about it being a superior format or being a better long term investment, thats a consumer doing what he has too to get what he wants.

@ Pantytheif - It seems that your friend has more money than sense then. The ordinary man on the street won't buy a £300 console just for 1 movie. I own both machines (360 and PS3) and know of both qualities and at the moment I do prefer HD because of the extras you do get, this doesn't mean the Blu-Ray won't be able to have these features in the next few releases.

Okay, I will acknowledge that for most part, there is no distinct difference between the two formats but when i said superior, what i was really talking about was superior storage capacity which is enough to future-proof it for sometime to come.

Pantythief...I like to think people bought BD for better reasons than just that the disk was shinier than the HDDVD ones...

I can see where your coming from about the marketing aspect but its not the HDDVD camp did throw enough money of their own, including pretty blatant bribes, in order to push their own systems.

"If you look at the 360 and the PS3, the PS3 is supposed to be more powerful but the games currently look better on the 360. A classic example of how the technology is used better on one format than the other."

Console-war rhetoric...PS3 is far superior! See, i can say meaningless stuff as well.

The customers chose Blueray, no-one else.

@ DanWill

I'm curious, how does HD-DVD look better? They're both capable of the same resolutions (720p, 1080i, 1080p); making an arbitrary statement like that holds no water. More features: agreed, HD-DVD has more 'extra features' on the discs atm. More upgradeable? I'd like to know what you base this on. You forgot to mention HD-DVD has upwards of 40% LESS storage space, seems BluRay has more potential for upgrades.

If you want to poke holes at BluRay, you might've mentioned the incompatibility issues certain players are having (HD-DVD isn't innocent of this either).

@PantyTheif's comment

(Great name BTW), games quite possibly do look better on the 360, this is due to the fact that the 360 is on its third generation of titles. This means the developers have become more accustomed to the API's of the system, and are learning to crank as much out of the hardware as possible. PS3 with its cell processors is much more difficult to develop for, as well as being in its second generation of titles. 360 games are likely close to the max the hardware can handle (see PGR4, Assassins Creed, Mass Effect, BioShock). PS3 games will get a little more complex graphically in the future (Metal Gear, Gran Turismo, etc).

At the end of the day, who wins? The retailers, they have all our money now. Who loses? We do of course, (especially those who bought HD-DVD) because once again, an industry can't agree on format standards; leaving early adopters with expensive paperweight collections. It's not just the entertainment industry either, anyone have Draft N router? 4 different implementations that weren't compatible with each other, now two years later the standard is still in Draft because formalities can't be agreed upon. Retail products that have been on the shelves for over 2 years, and there still isn't a concrete specification for it. I guess it is too much to ask for that companies play nice and keep what's best for the consumer in mind.

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