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Review author reveals that the High Street backed British system – as publisher bosses speak out for PEGI

Dr Tanya Byron has told the biggest names in UK video games publishing that retailers persuaded her to give more power to the BBFC over PEGI – as ELSPA members voiced their disagreement with the decision.

Addressing ELSPA members in Portman Square, London at a closed meeting this morning – also attended by specially selected press – Byron said that retailers “very strongly” backed BBFC logos on the front of all games boxes to assist the with “parental confusion at the point of sale”.

She was supported by director general of the Entertainment Retail Association Kim Bayley, who thanked Byron for her efforts and "sensible" proposals.

However, publisher bosses such as EA UK general manager Keith Ramsdale, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president David Reeves and SCE UK boss Ray Maguire showed their disagreement with the decision during a show of hands.

Despite largely positive soundings on the Review in general, when asked if they would prefer the current hybrid of BBFC and PEGI classification or one single ratings system, around 90 per cent of ELSPA members opted for the latter.

Around two-thirds of ELSPA members then voted in favour of a single PEGI system, rather than for the BBFC to take full control.

“Retail felt very strongly in favour of the BBFC as the single consumer-facing on all games,” Byron told the room. “They felt they needed more support at the point of sale, and the BBFC could offer them that.”

Byron used the opportunity to praise the UK publishing sector and the manner in which it self-regulated prior to the Review.

“The big message of this Review is that the public needs to understand that this is not a cynical industry turning people into psychopaths and just making as much money as possible,” she added. “This is an industry very proud of its products, which offer many benefits for young children.”

Once again, Byron took the time to dismiss inaccurate reports that she recommended stricter penalties for retailers.

Keep checking back at MCVuk.com for more news on 'When Byron met ELSPA' – and look out for our full interview with the woman herself tomorrow morning.

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“Re: More Byron news please”
Posted by: kPod - Apr 3, 4:43pm

So the government is strongarming game publishers into using BBFC? THAT'S going to go down well with the EU Competition Commission.


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“Movie and Games”
Posted by: SvenOf9 - Apr 3, 8:44pm

PEGI has no grounding in law - its toothless and useless. The BBFC ratings system is much more useful and might actually stop things like Manhunt and GTA ending up in the hands of 7 year olds if for once it was enforced properly. Its a bout time some parent were prosecuted for supplying this stuff to their own kids. Lets see... supplying a certificated work to someone under the statutory age and corrupting a minor, and I think it would be in breach of the child protection act also.

Something has to be done, as the current system isn't working clearly.


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“Re: Movie and Games”
Posted by: stevo - Apr 3, 8:53pm

the curent systen works just fine 15 and 18 should be bbfc but as a retailer it is an absolute pain for twelve rated titles to be bbfc as there is no id for them to show.i dont know which retailers she contacted probably pc world ,only one of there staff would say yes make it all bbfc..tards


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“Re: Movie and Games”
Posted by: SvenOf9 - Apr 3, 9:08pm

@stevo - I would say it should all be BBFC and I have been retailing games for 17 years, As for ID for 12 and up - bus pass - at least in this part of the world the childs 16th birthday is printed on it as the expiry date of the photocard part... Or shock horror the parents have to come and buy it. I would rather my kids couldn't buy certain 12 rated games without my permission.


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“Re: Movie and Games”
Posted by: indie - Apr 3, 11:40pm

@stevo

Totally agree, what possible benefit is to be had in giving games, U, PG, and 12 certificates.

As a retailer it will be impossible to tell if a child is 11,12 or 13.

SvenOf9 - how many children do you know that have a bus pass? So the next time a 12 year old wants to buy FIFA they will be required to bring their passport! Unlikely parents will be happy with that.


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