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N’Gai Croal believes teaser makes it ‘easy to misunderstand’ Capcom’s much-anticipated horror title

Newsweek journalist N’Gai Croal has questioned the thinking behind the way black people are represented in the trailer for Capcom’s Resident Evil 5.

In an interview with MTV, Croal attacked the teaser – which shows Caucasian hero Chris Redfield facing swathes of black zombies – for “dovetailing with classic racist imagery”.

“It taps into sort of this very racist iconography,” he said. “I think that’s the only way I’m describing it. I’m not saying that was their intent. But it seems that a lot of people who were up in arms about the trailer couldn’t see that and didn’t want to engage it."

However, Croal also commented that he would withhold his judgement until he plays the full game, adding that he didn’t “want to put down the Capcom team that’s working on it”.

In his carefully worded answers, Croal also dealt with the subject of why he believes the trailer is more racially insensitive than Capcom’s Resident Evil 4 – in which the undead were of predominantly Hispanic origin.

In order to keep Croal’s quotes in context, MCV has replicated them in full below. You can find the same at MTV’s Multiplayer page.

MTV: I wanted to ask you about the “Resident Evil 5″ trailer…

I looked at the “Resident Evil 5″ trailer and I was like, “Wow, clearly no one black worked on this game.” Because I wonder, and I haven’t sort of really dug into it that much, but I wonder what sort of advice Capcom gave them. The point isn’t that you can’t have black zombies. There was a lot of imagery in that trailer that dovetailed with classic racist imagery. What was not funny, but sort of interesting, was that there were so many gamers who could not at all see it. Like literally couldn’t see it. So how could you have a conversation with people who don’t understand what you’re talking about and think that you’re sort of seeing race where nothing exists?

There was stuff like even before the point in the trailer where the crowd turned into zombies. There sort of being, in sort of post-modern parlance, they’re sort of “othered.” They’re hidden in shadows, you can barely see their eyes, and the perspective of the trailer is not even someone who’s coming to help the people. It’s like they’re all dangerous; they all need to be killed. It’s not even like one cute African — or Haitian or Caribbean — child could be saved. They’re all dangerous men, women and children. They all have to be killed. And given the history, given the not so distant post-colonial history, you would say to yourself, why would you uncritically put up those images? It’s not as simple as saying, “Oh, they shot Spanish zombies in ‘Resident Evil 4,’ and now ‘black zombies and that’s why people are getting upset.” The imagery is not the same. It doesn’t carry the same history, it doesn’t carry the same weight. I don’t know how to explain it more clearly than that.

I think the audience isn’t demanding much change. They like the games they’re playing. They’re by and large comfortable with the amounts of stereotypes in their games. You know because another thing that you sort of have gamers run into in situations like this is that, “Oh it’s just a game.” [laughs] You know, if it’s just a game, then why do we care about how culturally relevant they are? I care about how culturally relevant they are. I take games as seriously as other art forms.

If there were a movie that had those images, I’d question it. I’d really want to know what’s going on in this movie. Like where is this coming from? So we hadn’t seen much of the game. It was just a trailer. If it had been me in that situation, I wouldn’t have put out a trailer like that. I think it’s very easy to misunderstand what that game is about based on that trailer. And while I would certainly withhold final judgment, if that’s all the game is, I’d be concerned about that.


MTV: It’s funny how some people argue that it’s “just a game,” but also get really upset of any criticism of it…

Absolutely. It’s very difficult in this country, in many countries, to have a conversation about race.

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Everyone brings to it their own history, their own perspective. Some people are engaged in it, some people aren’t.

I think some people are concerned because some people think there is a double standard. Some people say that when it’s images of only black people then people get concerned. Some people feel like their hobby is under attack; it’s being misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Again the portrayal of Africa, or the Caribbean, since we don’t know where it’s being set, as sort of this dark, dangerous continent filled with people who only want to do you harm goes back a long, long way. And based on the images put up on the trailer, what else are you supposed to take from it? Especially if you’re not familiar with the franchise?

Even if you are familiar with the franchise, if you are familiar with those images and their historical weight, you look at it and say, “Man, that’s kind of messed up.”

Then you look at the music that was used in the trailers, that’s one of the things that was sort of funny in so that you had those people who were saying, “It’s not even Africa, it’s Haiti or somewhere in the Caribbean.”

The music that they’re using in the trailer is very reminiscent of the music used in Black Hawk Down which was set in Africa — Somalia. That actually was one of the things that was most disturbing because it sort of had a feeling as like, “Wow, what research did this team do? Did they only watch Black Hawk Down and give it this kind of vibe?”

I don’t want to put down the Capcom team that’s working on it. I hope they did more research than that. But based on that trailer, it’s very difficult to tell. And Black Hawk Down was a very problematic film among a handful of critics and particularly among African-American viewers and African viewers when it came out because of the sort of narrow focus of its portrayal.

That’s the whole thing where only Chris Redfield appears to be human before they turn into zombies; the humanity of other people is in question. It’s like you barely see their faces, he doesn’t really interact with them, he sort of walks through this thing and it’s sort of, “Is he there? Is he not?”

It’s a very strange thing, and it taps into sort of this very racist iconography. I think that’s the only way I’m describing it. I’m not saying that was their intent. But it seems that a lot of people who were up in arms about the trailer couldn’t see that and didn’t want to engage it.

I think, again, the point is not that Capcom can’t or shouldn’t make a zombie game set in what appears to be an impoverished country where the majority of residents are black. I’m not saying that.

But what I am saying is that if I was Capcom, I wouldn’t have suggested to put out that trailer. I would have said, “You know what, this has tremendous capacity for being misunderstood, and we want to signal that this is not what you might think it is” — and they didn’t do that. That’s what I’m saying.

It’s like when you engage that kind of imagery you have to be careful with it. It would be like saying you were going to do some sort of zombie movie that appeared to be set in Europe in the 1940’s with skinny, emaciated, Hasidic-looking people. If you put up that imagery people would be saying, “Are you crazy?”

Well, that’s what this stuff looks like. This imagery has a history. It has a history and you can’t pretend otherwise. That imagery still has a history that has to be engaged, that has to be understood. If you’re going to tread, if you’re going to engage imagery that has that potential, the onus is on the creator to be aware of that because there will be repercussions in the marketplace.

I don’t know how Capcom feels about it. I think releasing that game is going to be very difficult. I think there are people and organizations who aren’t very understanding of games that if that imagery is brought to them they’re going to be like, “Wait, hold up. I don’t know how you could put that out.”

Then you have to say, “Does Wal-Mart want to deal with that? Does Target want to deal with that?” I’m not saying that censorship is the answer. I’m saying that the same rights that allow Capcom to put the game out are the same rights that allow people to bring pressure on people who might release that game.

This is why it is important to whoever works in the American office of a company like Capcom to be able to show this is the history, this is where this comes from, this is where we need to be more sensitive. I’m not sure they’ve done that yet.

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“A zombie responds...”
Posted: Apr 11, 12:39pm

I think this guy makes some interesting points but who is standing up for zombie rights? Consistently we are portrayed in games and movies as brain hungry automatons who are easily distracted and obsessed with shopping centres.

Capcom, we beg of you. Please portray us as the artistic, athletic and creative beings that we are. No matter what race we are - African, American, Spanish - we stand together slightly green around the edges, groaning....


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: anon - Apr 11, 12:56pm

Is this a joke? This debate is still going on. Was this guy frozen in time?

It's a game based on fiction - get over it. Capcom just decided to place R5 in a new setting, this isn't meant to be culturally, historically or geographically realistic.


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: Sora - Apr 11, 1:04pm

I think the problem is that theres not one single zombie of a different shade of colour (at the moment) , if it was a multi-cultural swarm of zombies then maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

But then again maybe that would spark a global "Capcoms racist army."

You know what ya need to avoid all this?...a focus group!

Sora


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted: Apr 11, 1:35pm

First off, if it's anything like las plagas (spelling?) then they aren't zombies as much as they are infected and being mind controlled.

If this is (as it appears) a small village in which most of the population probably are the same race. If Capcom put other races in that trailer, then the people claiming this is racist would probably claim racism again as Capcom put people of race that wouldn't be there.

It's a bunch of people with nothing better to do than make a fuss over nothing. They should be put down.


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted: Apr 11, 2:05pm

the first line has me in stitches....what a joke! so if a white man worked on resi 2 (when the zombies were white caucasian american people) did he say OH MY GOD THEY'RE KILLING WHITES!! I REFUSE TO WORK ON THIS TITLE!? no....he just continued working on the excellent game. Colour is totally irrelevant..its just a location in the world...this time instead of japan, america or the UK, it just happens to be africa! get a life you desperate journalist who is just trying to get some attention!


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: Joe - Apr 11, 2:21pm

The Race Card being used again ( Shakes head ) . It's a game and completely fictitious and a game I'm going to get, not because I'm killing people from the Caribbean or Africa but because It's a Resident Evil game.

You want Racism in a game ? Go play Call o Duty 4 Online where Americans call me and everybody else on the Game N***ers daily. So I recommend you start sorting the **** out on your own doorstep before judging Developers from different countries on their intent for the Game.


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: Jason - Apr 11, 2:44pm

Ok, I can understand where he is coming from in this article. Being that RE5 will be a huge game, Capcom could have chosen to take a different route and focus on some of the other aspects of the title. Of course there will be zomies, how about showing various scenarios and areas of the game? There is enough racism on XBOX live and one can only imagine what will come out of the multiplayer portion of the game IF capcom decides to add the locals as part of the fun.
I really want this game to be released as I have been a fan of the serious since its inception. If deemed necessary, I hope that Capcom will respond or at least defend their stance on the trailer and how it relates to the story.


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: Crash - Apr 11, 3:50pm

Oh my God! Black people in a (fictitious) Africa.... what an outrage!
Get a grip mate, it's a game.
I wonder if there would even be a debate if it was a black lead charater........??


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: youknowwho - Apr 11, 3:54pm

sounds like BS to me. this is a video game. they want to do it in africa, is there a bunch of white ppl in africa? No.

get a life. games are games.


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted: Apr 11, 5:51pm

I think this viewpoint is as ridiculous as the rest of you. I think he is most concerned by the associations.

But then you could argue that potting the black 8 ball in pool with the white cue ball represents oppression. I'll stop short of quoting the militant guy when he talks about Star Wars in the film Mallrats


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: Sam - Apr 11, 7:37pm

Yeah, presenting Africa with black guys is racism.

Some people (all of those who are behind these "debates" and polemics) need to buy a new shiny brain.


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: Dan - Apr 11, 8:01pm

I wasn't shock to see someone like this replying that RE5 is racist. We still live in a world where everybody can say cracker, hick, redneck, chink, jap, beaner, wetback, brown people, redskin, turban, etc, but if one says the N-word, they are consider a racist and the victim is advised to sue.


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“Re: A zombie responds...”
Posted by: Monty - Apr 11, 8:08pm

I don't remember too many Spanish people complaining about how they were portrayed in RES 4....???


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“Are we sure??”
Posted by: Gareth Hacon - Apr 12, 8:19am

I do not believe that Capcom is racist. It is just a game!
Lets not bring this in the issue of an otherwise successful game series - remember Wesker? the white enemy. White Barry who nearly killed white Gill in Res 1, where will the next series be set in??


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“Re: Are we sure??”
Posted by: Procyon - Apr 12, 10:00am

It is just me or has anyone else noticed that when the main character in a game is white, and he kills any enemies that are other than white, it's racist, but when you play something like GTA San Andreas, with a main character that is black and you kill white enemies, nobody mentions race, just the violence. Its about time this whole racist argument was killed instead of games being made a scapegoat for societies problems.


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“Re: Are we sure??”
Posted by: Mike Bowden - Apr 12, 12:20pm

The point isn't that it's set in Africa and therefor it's racist. Reading the comment sabove it's as though 90% of you haven't actually read the article.

He's saying the BEFORE they turn into zombies, they are betrayed as sinister and characterless. The place is portrayed as intimidating from the start.

His point is that if you consider the old seterotypes about far away countries where the population is mainly black, this trailer lives up to it.

He was also not suggesting that Capcom change it. He admitted that he hasn't seen the full game. All he's saying is, is that he wants Capcom to be aware of the signals that are being sent out.

Oh, and if you all think a game is just 'a game', then I don't think you can class yourself as an informed gamer. Because nothing is 'just' anything, everything has cultural and psychological inferences that only the ignorant ignore.


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“Re: Are we sure??”
Posted by: Kongazilla - Apr 12, 2:33pm

My, oh my, I really think most of you didn`t get the whole point of what he is saying. I reserve judgement till I see the final game - which I can't wait for being a huge resident evil fan, but when I saw the trailer for the first time I was quite shocked at the way the africans were portrayed, with every white supremacy clichee in full force. It might not play out like this in the final game, but I think the trailer was borderline in playing with rascist imagery. Makes me sort of sad, that most people are unable to see that.
(Sorry for my english)


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“Mister Point”
Posted by: ADE_1977 - Apr 12, 3:22pm

@16

Finally someone read the article before passing comment. I don't think many will argue that the portrayal of black people as zombies would be a ridiculous complaint to make against a game set in a small African village. The point, as i see it, is that the populace are portrayed as not having a cultural identity in their pre-zombie form, but rather as a helpless, faceless people who need a white hero to solve their problems.
That said this is only a trailer and i would presume that Resi 5 will follow other games in the series and introduce an unaffected local character, who will provide not only help to the white guy, but will have his own back story giving Capcom a chance to exercise some racial empathy.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted by: pjmas05 - Apr 12, 8:25pm

Guys lets not beat down on N'Gai Croal, this guy is a deeply respected journo who has written for Newsweek for a number of years and even writes a monthly column for Edge, who we all know are hard to please!!! This game and others like it will be misunderstood by many, so lets not turn on our own for the sake of a well reasoned arguement.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted: Apr 13, 2:30pm

What a ****. This guy is just another journo trying to make something of nothing.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted by: sabs - Apr 14, 11:46am

Finally, a game the neo-nazis can really get stuck into!

Although I doubt the journo was seeking attention, if he was any good at his job he'd understand and respect the fact capcom are crafting another masterpiece here and not one that is going to be influenced by any racist gender - the race card is being played and no matter how careful his words were, his intent was still to display a concern that the people working on the game are racist.

How many white people have you shot in the face in a game during your lifetime? I'll bet it's a ****load more than any other coloured skinned person. Where's the equality there? Does anyone actually care?

I'd be more worried about the swathes of black music videos (and incidently videogames like 50 Cent: Bulletproof & the Def Jam fighting games) portraying all black youths as mindless thugs and actually influencing more of them to become the same thing.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted by: Rez - Apr 14, 12:29pm

I think the guy has looked deeper into this than color and location, it's the way the fictitous characters are portrayed in the scenes with poverty and oppression. These days you get that in every country you just have to look close enough.
I am still going to buy this and play it because I like killing zombies no matter what color, age or background they have. Rez.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted by: RockmanX20 - Apr 14, 4:01pm

The point is, if you know Capcom's history and the history of video games, black people have never really been portrayed positively. I am a big Capcom fan, but I do have to honestly say there isn't a character in the Capcom franchise who is black and is not stereotypical.

We know the good heroes, Mega Man, Final Fight, Street Fighter, Devil May Cry, Onimusha, Resident Evil, and so forth. In all of these games, majority of the characters are white, and respected to a point that you would love to be in their shoes. There doesn't exist a game where there are black respectable characters in the Capcom franchise. Dee Jay, M.Bison(Balrog), Sean, in the Street Fighter Franchise all appear to be stereotypical.

If you were to just look at race in video games as a whole, it is all too depressing. Perhaps if Capcom took my advice of adding a Black Protagonist to fight alongside Chris, then I feel this would solve the problem, because we now have a black character that could potentially be respected.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted by: Rawr - Apr 15, 10:42am

...it's resi 5!! yes...it's a well known fact that there are black people in africa. It's also a well known fact that in resi games everybody is infected and wants to kill you, forcing you to kill them. so i dont see how all of a sudden capcom wants to kill all black people. The resi formula has always been slay zombies. And put yourself in that situation. If you were in a zombie infested africa, would you stop just before blasting one in the head and think, 'Wait, is this ethnically correct, is he or she of my race and ethnic background. Better consider the history of both our cultures too...any stain between us? hmm...better not kill this one, he is black, in poverty and and disimilar to my ethnic background.'

tbh i think NOT killing black zombies because of their ethnic background is racist in itself....segregating them, not killing them because they are black....what about all the white people that died in the rest of the seires...so they are different to the black people coz they are allowed to be killed as zombies.

RE5 is not rasicist, its just a bit of fun....you know...laugh at yourself in the mirror every now and then....we managed it with the other resi games.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted by: Rob - Apr 15, 11:54am

You're all missing the point. He's not saying the damn game is racist. He's saying that the cinematographic style of the trailer is suggestive of a certain kind of imagery, and that has racist overtones.

Your responses are exactly the ones that he fears... ignorant people not willing to engage in the debate because they're so damn sure that it doesn't have a racist agenda. And he says that he knows it doesn't have a racist agenda. It just has imagery that he, for reasons 95% of you clearly don't and never will understand, is uncomfortable with.

But hey, you guys know it's ok, so screw his opinion. Right? Right?

Yawn.


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“Re: Mister Point”
Posted by: LeeC - Apr 16, 8:34am

“Wow, clearly no one black worked on this game.” ...

That was his opening comment... That's plain racist towards white people, because he is blaming "only" white people for creating this imagery. Maybe the black people who worked on it are not obsessed with picking holes in everything and turning it into a racial crusade.

I'm sorry, but any member of an ethnic minority that whines on about racism and then starts an interview with that, is just a hypocrite. I have no interest in any article from a blatant racist and this is how he has portrayed himself from line one.

You can guarantee that had this been the other way round, with stereotypical oppression of any people other than "black people", there would have been no mention of it.

And as for him being a respectable journo... he writes for Edge, I don't think anything else needs saying.


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“Interesting ...”
Posted by: TW - Apr 16, 11:48am

This is an interesting debating point ... and is likely to be repeated in the future as the quality of imagery in games engenders emotional responses from the audience.

However, I do think the journalist makes a couple of ill thought through comments which distract his audience and illicit an immediate negative response - particularly the comment about no-one black working on the game. That immediately infers that Capcom is a racist organisation.

I do not for one second think that is true, but historically they have portrayed blacks - and pretty much every other race/gender/sect come to think of it - in a very stereotypical way.

He mentions BHD and I agree that this was probably a very strong influence for the team. Historically, game developers did not need to worry about how their characters and scenes were constructed. It was all about gameplay.

I think the key point raised here is that this is no longer true. Games developers now have to consider the socio-political impact of the imagery they generate. I think that is a sad indictment to the world we live in.

I believe 100% that Capcom did not even consider the race angle for the trailer they released - they just thought it was cool. However, as soon as they get a high profile negative reaction, you can bet a million pounds the next trailer will be sanitised.


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“Re: Interesting ...”
Posted by: from france - Apr 16, 1:20pm

"That was his opening comment... That's plain racist towards white people, because he is blaming "only" white people for creating this imagery. Maybe the black people who worked on it are not obsessed with picking holes in everything and turning it into a racial crusade."

That's just *your* racism speaking up, because he said no black people must have worked on it, you assumed he was an anti-white racist, but this game is Japanese! Most, if not all the staff who is working on this game is Japanese. What about *your* reaction? You jumped to racist conclusions. What about your assumption about the origins of this game? You obviously assumed it was a Western game. (from the US?) Ethnocentric much?

"I have no interest in any article from a blatant racist and this is how he has portrayed himself from line one."

Your assumptions about him him are racist too, so who do you think you are to complain about racism?

"You can guarantee that had this been the other way round, with stereotypical oppression of any people other than "black people", there would have been no mention of it."

You really are ignorant and don't know what you are talking about, had this game being set in China or South Korea, there would have been a *huge* controversy, many Chinese and South-Koreans would not appreciate a Japanese video game with Chinese or Koreans zombies. (there is still a lot of resentment in China and S.Korea against Japan)

It would be even more controversial if the hero, instead of being white, was Japanese. Of course, I doubt it would ever happen because all RE heroes are white.

What about a German killing Israeli zombies? Do you really think this wouldn't create a controversy? Or a Palestinian killing Israeli zombies, or the reverse, or a Turk killing Kurd zombies, Hutu killing Tutsis, Russian killing Chechenyans etc.

Can you honestly say none of these configurations shock you? If you can answer yes, then you are an honest, predjudice free person, but if your answer is no, then your reaction to this whole business is because of a pent-up racism/hate/dislike against black people.

And when I say you, I am not talking just ot you, but to all the people who posted stupid unargumented messages saying it's a meaningless argument.


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“Re a a zombie responds”
Posted by: tracey johnson - Apr 16, 8:14pm

what a load of crap:if all the zombies were white should we cause uproar..(if you don"t like it,don"t play it...simple as


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“History”
Posted by: whyme - Apr 17, 4:04pm

I get this guy, he makes valid ponts about the imagery thats used in the trailer, but how are people supposed to get over what happened in history people keep expecting double standards!?! Why should i have to pay for the recklessness of my ancestors!? Times back then were backwards... time to move forward and stop being so bitter... i feel for your opinion, but comments like this have got to stop if any progress is to be made in the world.


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“Re: History”
Posted by: Asiandude - Apr 23, 10:54pm

The narrow-minded boneheads who are crying racism concerning this game represent those who define racism in only one form: White perpetrator, black victim. A black person can call me, an Asian, a chink or a Mexican, spic, and yet these people would rationalize somehow, in their minds, that this black person is not a racist. Yet anything even potentially offending black people is. Wake up to your own prejudices you stereotype mongers.

As for this N'gai guy, open your mind and raise it to a higher level bud. Rambo goes into Myanmar and massacres a boatload of Asians, you don't hear us complaining about racism do ya? No, we keep our perspective that this story takes place in Myanmar and that the native inhabitants there are Asians.

Take your petty mind off race and join the new world order where race is not a consideration for anything. Stop racism by being so over sensitive.


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