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A blog named Anti Spore slams publisher for teaching American kids to believe in evolution

EA’s Spore might be sitting pretty in third space in the UK Top 40, but it seems not everyone is happy about Will Wright’s success – and none are grumpier than the author of a new blog called Anti Spore.

Carrying the byline ‘Resisting EA’s War on Creationism”, the site is up in arms about the game’s belief that the world and human race has arrived at the form it is today through the process of evolution, as opposed to being created at the hands of god.

Choice snippets from the site include:

“I used to like Will Wright. He created Sim City, a fantastic game that celebrated the earth that God created for us and allowed you to use all your God given abilities to make an ideal society. You would think that as a member of the Episcopal Church, a smart man like Will Wright would not be capable of creating Spore. However, we must be reminded that the Episcopal Church is the only church in America that ordains homosexuals on a regular basis.”

“It takes a village to raise a child. And 8,500 employees at Electronic Arts to corrupt a child’s mind. 8,500 people all working together and not a single one with enough Jesus to stand up and say what they are doing is wrong. It makes me sick.”

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“Seems a lot of Evolutionairyists have been stopping by and commenting. I am not afraid of a debate.  I just wish they would be a little nicer.  But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

I believe god created me in one day

posted by Sep 10, 2008 at 12:40 pm
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Yeah looks like he rushed it! (B.Hicks)

The funniest thing I've read in a long time.

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Re: I believe god created me in one day

posted by Chris Sep 10, 2008 at 1:20 pm
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Chris

Just a shame for this guy that evolution has absolutely reams of mutually supportive evidence, and God has ... one book written between 1500 and 2500 years ago. Move on.

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Re: Re: I believe god created me in one day

posted by JD Sep 10, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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JD

You ever noticed how people who believe in creationism look really un-evolved!

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Re: Re: Re: I believe god created me in one day

posted by BillyBatts Sep 10, 2008 at 4:57 pm
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BillyBatts

Can anyone spell...

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What to believe?

posted by Sep 11, 2008 at 8:59 am
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Hmm, a theory of evolution, having mistakes, being unproved and without logic... Or do you want to tell me that descendants of my dog will turn in a fish if I'll throw him in water?

And on other side a book describing accurately scientifical facts a millenium before these facts was later proven by scientists.

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Re: What to believe?

posted by Sep 11, 2008 at 6:29 pm
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What about dinosaur fossils?
"I believe that God put them here to test our faith."
"Really? I believe God put YOU here to test MY faith"
-Bill Hicks

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Re: Re: What to believe?

posted by MrJolly Sep 11, 2008 at 9:37 pm
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>Or do you want to tell me that descendants of my dog >will turn in a fish if I'll throw him in water?

Well it wouldn't be a fish, different animal family, basicaly it'd be more like a dolphin. Course, it doesn't quite work like that but as I suspect this is one of those wonderful drive by postings I suspect that's all we'll here from you.

ref the Hicks reference - are we playing creationalisum Vs. Evolution debate bingo?

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Re: Re: Re: What to believe?

posted by MrJolly Sep 11, 2008 at 9:38 pm
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Crap, I wrote here instead of hear, how dumb..

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Re: Re: Re: Re: What to believe?

posted by MrJolly Sep 11, 2008 at 9:40 pm
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Yep, PR stunt or ironic site for me, the flat earth society is busy wearing tin foil helmets..

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Evolution can't be proved, nor creationism

posted by KaRei Sep 12, 2008 at 8:39 am
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KaRei

Nobody can prove the evolution and it's hard to prove the creationism. The exchange of the species isn't something what can be seen by few generations. Dinosaur fosils doesn't prove the evolution. It just says here lived some different species. But whether it evolved or was suddenly replaced by newly created species, thats a question that can't be answered so easily.

To prove evolution it needs to come with a record of an uninterupted chain of changes, eg. fosils of dinosaur and all its stages it came through during the evolution. However, this chain was never done. When you collect the fosils, you realize that there aren't such intermediate stages you need to prove evolution. For example, you have a heap of skeletons of sabertooth tiger with 30cm long fangs, and next to it you have a heep of a species that followed, our today tiger, with 5cm fangs. But you are missing all the skeletons of tiger's evolution from sabertooth to our today tiger, eg. you don't have skeletons with 25cm fangs, 20cm fangs, 15cm fangs and 10cm fangs. There is a sabertooth tiger and our today tiger, although similar, with clearly defined differences, and there's no evidence of the intermediate stages.

On the other side, the creationism isn't clear as well. I'm not sure now, but I don't know that in Bible or in Quran is written that the species was created as they are, without the evolution. In both books there are recorded scientifical facts that was later dicovered by scientists (water circulation, the rotation of Sun around it's own axis, even the spherical shape of Earth). Especially with the Bible was however going through the centuries an explanation from the Church, how to read it. People had in history different view on things, they understood it in a different manner and there is a possibility, that some things they understood in a different way than how they are really described in Bible. I'm a believer and I read Quran and by myself I can say that there is nothing about flat world, rather it describe it in a manner that it really fit the truth that Earth is spherical. Both Bible and Quran say: "The God created everything." But they doesn't deny the theory of evolution in fact. I mean, even is Spore the creatures aren't evolving on their own. You decide what you'll add. So from this point, in Spore you're in the role of God. You CREATE the creature. It looks like evolution, but it's the God in the end that is commanding your legs and hands to take this or that shape. It's just an explanation of the Church that led to theory of creationism, not the Quoran or Bible themselves.

"And we (the God) created you (human) from a clay and then we devided you to men and women." (Quoran - maybe the translation isn't as good as it would be by profi :o) )
This says the God created us, but it doesn't say much more about its own process.
What scientists says about the creation of life? Under some certain conditions it's possible to make from an anorganic Carbon an organic one. I don't remember the name of the experiment, but this you can translate to the Quran's "made from clay", eg. anorganic material.
And then, when it's said the evolution began? From bacteria, being of an neutral sexuality. Later it evolved in more complicated male and female organisms. You can translate it into: "... and then we devided you to men and women".

So the summary of this my post is, that EA isn't against the God. They just deny the "theory" of being created suddenly, and they are serving to you a theory, that God created you by a series of little changes, known as an evolution.
But keep in mind, that none of the two candidates for the creation of life, evolution nor creationism, can't be still proven with a certainity. Both are theories and they both are possible to happen, yet they both are impossible (or at least hard) to prove.

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Re: Evolution can't be proved, nor creationism

posted by Jay Sep 12, 2008 at 11:53 am
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Jay

Since when does it take an entire village to raise a child?

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Re: Re: Evolution can't be proved, nor creationism

posted by Suzy Sep 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm
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Suzy

http://kotaku.com/5048460/antispore-answerable-to-a-higher-power-+-rick-astley" onclick="window.open ( this.href ); return false;" class="comment_url" >http://kotaku.com/...stley

Well played.

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Re: Re: Evolution can't be proved, nor creationism

posted by Dave Sep 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm
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Dave

KaRei, Have you ever read an original copy of the bible or koran? The bible and koran have been edited by man over numerous centuries, and have been tailored to suit the people in powers views. As has been proven with the dead sea scrolls, and various other texts, that there were more chapters originally, but due to some dodgy editing as they didn't portray the person in charges views, huge swathes were left out. So the scientific stuff in each book will have been updated as the years went by.

The one question that creationists keep asking is to show them evolution happening. My question back to them is you show me god. Where is the proof? There are books written by man, that's not proof. All you have is stories written by the people in charge. There is no proof any of it ever happend.
Plus if there is a god, why has he allowed the people in charge of religions to wage war and murder people in his name? What about the witch trials setting neighbour against neighbour, torture burning at the stake? For a loving god there is an awful lot of cruelty in the world done by so called religious people.
This is an argument that will never end (unless the creationists get the upper hand in America, then there maybe a crusade against evolutionists, and more torture and burnings at the stake)
If man is made in gods image, then god must be bloodthirsty, vicious and murderous.

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Re: Re: Re: Evolution can't be proved, nor creationism

posted by MrJolly Sep 15, 2008 at 10:43 am
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Viral evolution is a pretty good way to show it happening pretty quickly, especialy those that develop drug resistance.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Evolution can't be proved, nor creationism

posted by KaRei Sep 15, 2008 at 11:14 am
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KaRei

To Dave >> I didn't read the original of Quran. About Bible I don't speak because it was compiled 400 years after Jesus and so from the begining it was modified (at least by a selection what will get into Bible and what not). However in Quran I'm very interested. You read it? Or some several centuries old version of it? I'd like to read it :o)
Comparison of the old Quran and the actual Quran would be interesting.

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What a load of rubbish

posted by W.King Sep 15, 2008 at 4:15 pm
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W.King

"But I understand that some people get pretty defensive when they know they are wrong.”

Thats just begging to be turned on him as the one being defensive.............. kind of like I just did!
And just for emphasis i dont think an argument about creationism works when the planet in question isnt supposed to be representing our own.

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Re: What a load of rubbish

posted by The14th Sep 16, 2008 at 1:34 pm
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The14th

Hehe... Poe's Law strikes again!!! "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing"

And ending it with a Rick-Roll, that's just classic!

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