"Unit velocity"?

The all-singing, all-dancing PS3 now winging its way to a store near you!!

Who cares about Blue-Ray anyway, I work for Sony Vaio and 90% of customers i deal with never use their Blue-Ray drives

"Who cares about Blue-Ray anyway, I work for Sony Vaio and 90% of customers i deal with never use their Blue-Ray drives"
Aren't all the games on BluRay media?

@Dave
You can't even spell Blu-Ray correctly and you say you work for Sony Vaio. Thats funny.

@Dave - Who cares about 'BlueRay' (sic)?

Well only several million people -
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/33339/Blu-ray-approaching-100m-disc-sales" onclick="window.open ( this.href ); return false;" class="comment_url" >http://www.mcvuk.c...sales

1> its know as BD in tech terms
2> Last time i checked its was blue not blu in the English Dictionary.
Whats funny is someone pointed out a corperate slang word , which is a miss spelling of a basic English word.

Opposed to what a several Billion units in DVD sales or a couple of 100 million in downloads????.
Numbers are tiny in comparsion

Im with you Dave. I own a PS3, I own BluRays. I think that the movies look awesome on BluRay. I take nothing away from the format. What I do think, however, is that there is not a sufficiently massive difference (VHS -> DVD was such a differnce) in quality and features to make this format needed. Whilst the 'tech-heads' or whatever will lust after the ultra sharp images, my Mum doesn't notice a difference, and would never pay 4 or 5x the cost for the same film on BluRay that it would cost on DVD.
DVD is a superior format to VHS, not only because of image and sound quality, but because of features and price; 2 things that BluRay hasnt greatly improved on. Sure, the quality is there, but there are no greater features than you can get on a half decent DVD player.

To top if off, BluRay is awesome, if it was to be the same price as DVD, then we might have a different situation on our hands. Sadly, the price difference is too big.

And whats with the stupid boxes? I was more than happy with DVD size/shaped boxes. BluRays dont even fit in my DVD stand properly!

Blu-ray not blue-ray.....
the format name is blu-ray now blu may be a slang for blue.
but thats not how sony decided to market the tech name so you have it completely wrong.
perhaps your customers don't use their blue-ray drives because they don't exsist.
get some product knowledge, and maybe the people you sell them to will use them.

and on that note sony won't release a ps3 with out blu-ray because it wont be able to play the games, plus blu-ray is a strong selling point for these machines.

I am well aware how and why they came up with the name.
Simply down to the BLUE violet light on the lens, that a blue beem now not blu lol.
Secondly i'm well aware of all the specs of every system even down to what companies make what parts.
Its simply not needed and the market is not ready for it. if people like Blu-Ray fair play delighted for them, but from a personally point of view i think its a farce.

Re Dave
I can understand your point about Blu-Ray and that many will see the "added value" the format offers as limited, but the fact remains that all the games made for PS3 are on the Blu-Ray disc format (and have been since day1).

Surely you aren't suggesting that all the existing game stock is run down and re-made for a non Blu-Ray PS3???... thats nonsense... and it mentions as much in the actual article above.

sony took a big gamble with blu-ray from day one, brand new machine with a brand new format for dvd and media.

only time will tell if it pays off. without joining the shouting match to much , i remember when betamax was a great format and vhs won the battle. could this be the same battle

main problem with ps3 and blueray, is not everybody wants a all singing all dancing machine, they want to play a few games and watch a few dvds and at £129.99 the 360 is cheap and easy to use. if the ps3 price drops then maybe it will have a chance, as i see it people are losing jobs, and are not going to blow £300 on a ps3 and maybe even a new telly just to watch a blu ray film.

as a film/dvd collector, i like my normal dvds and quiet happy with the upscaled image from 360, i dont want to rebuy all my classic films again and if i did have blu ray i am not going to buy run of the mill films or kiddie films on blu- ray disc. the only films you are going to pay extra money for are big blockbuster films with lots of action and effects

many companys have in the passed had to back track with hardware and while the chances of ps3 being a non blu ray format is unlikely maybe the chances of another machine being release whichs uses normal disc could be more likely and before you shoot me down on this, how many models of the ps3 have there been since launch ? 4 so far.

what ever happens , as a indie game shop we hope sony get it right soon, so we can sell more of there product because at the moment it is not doing well and i think after 2 years since release, it should have kicked off by now.

I never mentioned that or said anything like that, what i said was Blu-Ray is a technology that is not really needed at the moment, i really cant see the point of it.
DRM on the disks is putting alot of people off the format as well, technically if you buy a Blu-Ray disk it may not work, there is a disclaimer stating it may not work in short .

Dave - Blu ray is certainly better than any Vaio that 90% of consumers don't care about.

Danny G - if you think Blu Ray is no better than DVD or not significantly (audio and PQ), may I suggest you get a decent AV set up; even my DVDs are upscaled

Upscaled ???? again see my previous points. 50 inch full HD TV with a PS3 on HDMI thats my rig.
As far as i can see Blu-Ray is built up by PS3 owners to justify having spent 400 euro on games console with very few decent games.
Just cause i work for a certain company doesnt mean i have sing from the hym sheet, i used to work for Dell as well and i hate them lol.

It know the thought of Blu-ray being hacked out of PS3 has been repudiated by many here but it is not beyond possiblility.

One already has to 'install' many PS3 games to to HDD before playing, so what difference does it make if they are DVD or BD?
Many games are smaller in size than a DVD-9 anyway (just the data is duplicated in different places on the BluRay disk for faster load times). There are larger games, of course, (MSG4 for example) but these could just come on multiple DVDs. One to Install (texture etc) and one you put in the PS3 to play the game (main game engine).

There is of course the problem of back catalogue, but if all PS3 games came as DVD in the future, both the old and new PS3 would be able to run them. Back catalogue could be download only option. This would have the added benefit of destroying the used market for older PS3 games.

Just a thought.

A price cut in North America may well be just around the corner, however here in the UK I would not expect any sort of cut until around September time. In addition when it does come I think some may be disappointed to realise that Sony will only be shaving £50 off the price, bringing the RRP down to £249.99.

@Noob
On PlayStation 3 the entire game is not installed to the hard drive, usually only a small portion is cached to improve load times etc. Unless of course you buy a downloaded version.
Also from my understanding it's actually XBox360 developers that use the 'padding' idea for dvd. The speed of Blu-Ray is constant, regardless of where your data is on the disk, which is not the case for dvd.
What PS3 developers often do with the extra space of Blu-Ray is include all localised versions of the game for different regions on the one disc, therefore saving duplication costs.

the idea that sony could remove blu ray from ps3 is simply insane, it would cause mass consumer confusion over which software would work and no one would buy their system. end of argument.

Sony are reportedly working on a UMD-less PSP. (there have been job ads for testers)

Maybe thats where the confusion has come from?

Anon - I suggest you re-read what I wrote.

If you do, you will see that I clearly state that the audio and picture quality IS superior.

I know I prefer DVD to VHS for those reasons, but also the ability to Skip Chapters, not having to rewind. Decent pausing. A-B Repeats. Repeat in general. A huge list of features, which I know that BluRay does, but why do I need to get something in super high quality, when for a fraction of the cost I can get it in standard definition.

Price is a huge factor for Joe Public. BluRay is too expensive, at least at the moment, with too few benefits over DVD.

Tl;Dr version, Anon, as you clearly didn't read my last comment. Read comments before you post one yourself.

Not that I believe it likely, but it would be entirely possible to have a PS3 without Blu-Ray. Solution: all downloadable games. Of course, this would hint at a much broader strategy shift.

The idea of a PS3 without a Blu Ray drive is utterly stupid. All the games made so far use that format so are people seriously considering a company might bring out a product that makes no use of the titles they've already published? And since Sony makes more money from games than it does from hardware this idea seems even backwards.

Now about the reason Blu-Ray is included in the PS3. Doesn't anyone remember that competition last year between Sony and Toshiba for market domination? Blu-Ray won because it had a much larger established user base, predominantly PS3 buyers. HD-DVD is no more so assuming that eventually DVD will be replaced by an HD disk and Sony owns the rights to the only HD disk on the market then the company stands to make a large profit! Putting Blu-Ray into the PS3 (and even losing money in the short term) may turn out to be one of the smartest decisions that Sony have made.